La aeronave, que realizaba maniobras conjuntas de la OTAN, transportaba a cuatro militares y pertenece al Cuerpo de Marines de Estados Unidos. Por el momento, se desconocen las causas del accidente, aunque el Ejército estadounidense ha informado de que se ha abierto una investigación sobre lo ocurrido y que se darán más detalles cuando sea posible y el tiempo lo permita.
#1:
Hay algo inquietante en estos periódicos deportivos hablando de los temas más variopintos...
#6:
#3 EEUU nunca han agredido a nadie, siempre se han tenido que defender de algo...
#17:
#3#4 No seria ni la primera ni la segunda ni la tercera ni la cuarta... vez
America’s history of using false flags to start wars
1. Mexican wars of 1819 and 1846-48
Florida, Texas, New Mexico and California were Spanish possessions that revolted for independence. The U.S. built a fortification 150km inside the Mexican border.
2. Annexation of Hawaii, 1893
Queen Liliukokalani proposed changing the Hawaiian Constitution, so U.S. Marines aided the leaders of a pro-American coup and a provisional government was proclaimed. In the last days of the Harrison presidency, a Treaty of Annexation was drawn up.
3. Spanish-American War, 1898
The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba, in which 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The U.S.A. declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards
4. Korean War, 1950-1953
South Korean incursions into North Korea (1949) led to war. It involved leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the U.S. military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities).
5. Vietnam War Tonkin Incident, 1964
The National Security Agency admitted it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 by manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam War.
6. Grenada invasion
The reason for the invasion given by the U.S. was that American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The U.S. supported a new rightwing leader.
7. Panama invasion
An incident between American and Panamanian troops led to invasion. The leader Manuel Noriega was changed and the earlier Carter administration plan to hand the control of the Canal over to Panama was cancelled.
8. U.S. and Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988
The CIA-organised coup of 1953 replaced Iranian Prime Minister Mosaddegh with the dictatorial Shah, who was given the best Western military equipment. But after the revolt against the Shah, the U.S. supported Saddam Hussein to attack Iran with strategic support and weapons, including gas warfare agents. "Too bad they both cannot lose", is how Kissinger evaluated this situation.
9. Bombing of Lybia, 1984
A Mossad agent admitted that, in 1984, they had planted a radio transmitter in Gaddaffi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya, which broadcast fake terrorist trasmissions in order to frame Gaddaffi as a terrorist supporter. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately thereafter.
10. Desert Storm (First Gulf War), 1991
Saddam Hussein asked for permission from the U.S. (via their ambassador, April Glaspie) to attack Kuwait, which had been asked by the U.S. to put pressure on Saddam to pay back money lent to fight against Iran. Kuwait was also illegally siphoning off oil from Iraqi fields. Saddam was told by Glaspie that the U.S. does not care about Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Snr mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti U.S. ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.
11. Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 10/7/01
Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, Saudi Arabian Osama bin Laden, was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. The leaders of Afghanistan were willing to hand over Osama for trial to a neutral nation, but the U.S. refused this compromise.
12. Enduring Justice (Second Gulf War), 3/20/03
The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the U.S., with WMD's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them had been made.
#10:
#1 ten por seguro que de la tercera guerra mundial nos enteraremos por el marca o el mundo deportivo
#21:
Cuántos aviones militares españoles han estallado en California en los últimos años? Y cuántos aviones militares portugueses han estallado en Nueva York últimamente?
Pues eso. Que dejen de andar tocando los cojones en otros países que ni les van ni les vienen. Y que dejen de ser unos impresentables, que da vergüenza ajena saber de cualquier cosa de USA relacionada con la política exterior.
#11:
#10 Yo me enteraré por las pendientes de menéame
#28:
#11 No llegará a portada. Que si duplicada, que si sensacionalista, que si lo del archiduque es un bulo de Marhuenda...
#3#4 No seria ni la primera ni la segunda ni la tercera ni la cuarta... vez
America’s history of using false flags to start wars
1. Mexican wars of 1819 and 1846-48
Florida, Texas, New Mexico and California were Spanish possessions that revolted for independence. The U.S. built a fortification 150km inside the Mexican border.
2. Annexation of Hawaii, 1893
Queen Liliukokalani proposed changing the Hawaiian Constitution, so U.S. Marines aided the leaders of a pro-American coup and a provisional government was proclaimed. In the last days of the Harrison presidency, a Treaty of Annexation was drawn up.
3. Spanish-American War, 1898
The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba, in which 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The U.S.A. declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards
4. Korean War, 1950-1953
South Korean incursions into North Korea (1949) led to war. It involved leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the U.S. military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities).
5. Vietnam War Tonkin Incident, 1964
The National Security Agency admitted it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 by manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam War.
6. Grenada invasion
The reason for the invasion given by the U.S. was that American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The U.S. supported a new rightwing leader.
7. Panama invasion
An incident between American and Panamanian troops led to invasion. The leader Manuel Noriega was changed and the earlier Carter administration plan to hand the control of the Canal over to Panama was cancelled.
8. U.S. and Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988
The CIA-organised coup of 1953 replaced Iranian Prime Minister Mosaddegh with the dictatorial Shah, who was given the best Western military equipment. But after the revolt against the Shah, the U.S. supported Saddam Hussein to attack Iran with strategic support and weapons, including gas warfare agents. "Too bad they both cannot lose", is how Kissinger evaluated this situation.
9. Bombing of Lybia, 1984
A Mossad agent admitted that, in 1984, they had planted a radio transmitter in Gaddaffi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya, which broadcast fake terrorist trasmissions in order to frame Gaddaffi as a terrorist supporter. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately thereafter.
10. Desert Storm (First Gulf War), 1991
Saddam Hussein asked for permission from the U.S. (via their ambassador, April Glaspie) to attack Kuwait, which had been asked by the U.S. to put pressure on Saddam to pay back money lent to fight against Iran. Kuwait was also illegally siphoning off oil from Iraqi fields. Saddam was told by Glaspie that the U.S. does not care about Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Snr mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti U.S. ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.
11. Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 10/7/01
Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, Saudi Arabian Osama bin Laden, was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. The leaders of Afghanistan were willing to hand over Osama for trial to a neutral nation, but the U.S. refused this compromise.
12. Enduring Justice (Second Gulf War), 3/20/03
The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the U.S., with WMD's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them had been made.
#17Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, Saudi Arabian Osama bin Laden, was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon
Cuántos aviones militares españoles han estallado en California en los últimos años? Y cuántos aviones militares portugueses han estallado en Nueva York últimamente?
Pues eso. Que dejen de andar tocando los cojones en otros países que ni les van ni les vienen. Y que dejen de ser unos impresentables, que da vergüenza ajena saber de cualquier cosa de USA relacionada con la política exterior.
#31 No solo les dejo sino que además reparto kleenex a los USA para que no lloren si les explotan sus aviones por meter sus narices militares en sitios donde no pintan nada. Fíjate si soy magnánimo.
Aviones militares uruguayos que exploten en Noruega vas a ver pocos. Es lo que tiene no meter las napias donde no pintan nada.
#2 Solo por puntualizar. La aeronave ha tenido un accidente y se ha estrellado. Cada año hay accidentes de aviones militares, bastantes, pero a no ser que sean de españoles no te vas a enterar.
It is with great sadness we have recived the message that four American soldiers died in a plane crash last night. The soldiers participated in the NATO exercise Cold Response. Our deepest sympathies go to the soldiers' families, relatives and fellow soldiers in their unit.
Palabras del primer ministro noreugo. Suena a accidente en maniobras, nada màs.
#9 No te dejes llevar por la fama que arrastra. Su desarrollo fue problemático y con muchos problemas, pero ya lleva muchos años volando y la fiabilidad ha mejorado muchísimo.
Comentarios
Hay algo inquietante en estos periódicos deportivos hablando de los temas más variopintos...
#1 ten por seguro que de la tercera guerra mundial nos enteraremos por el marca o el mundo deportivo
#10 Yo me enteraré por las pendientes de menéame
#11 Yo por la Fisgona.
#11 No llegará a portada. Que si duplicada, que si sensacionalista, que si lo del archiduque es un bulo de Marhuenda...
#10 Ojalá el titular de la noticia empiece por "Como ya adelantó Marca..."
#1 Fue con la pandemia cuando empezaron a meter más otros temas por falta de noticias deportivas o antes ya era así?
#36 Pueden hablar más del Real Madrid si les faltan noticias... Qué tostón con el real Madrid hasta en la sopa...
#1 tienen mas visitantes que otros medios y les dan salida a noticias del grupo prisa... La vanguardia (en este caso) , etc
El Maine aircraft
#3 EEUU nunca han agredido a nadie, siempre se han tenido que defender de algo...
#6 Y la democracia, que no se te olvide la democracia...
#3 #4 No seria ni la primera ni la segunda ni la tercera ni la cuarta... vez
America’s history of using false flags to start wars
1. Mexican wars of 1819 and 1846-48
Florida, Texas, New Mexico and California were Spanish possessions that revolted for independence. The U.S. built a fortification 150km inside the Mexican border.
2. Annexation of Hawaii, 1893
Queen Liliukokalani proposed changing the Hawaiian Constitution, so U.S. Marines aided the leaders of a pro-American coup and a provisional government was proclaimed. In the last days of the Harrison presidency, a Treaty of Annexation was drawn up.
3. Spanish-American War, 1898
The surprise explosion of the battleship Maine at Havana, Cuba, in which 255 of the crew died. The Hearst press accused the Spanish, claiming that the explosion was caused by a remote-controlled mine. The U.S.A. declared war on Spain, and conquered Philippines, Guam and Cuba. Subsequent investigations revealed that the explosion originated inside the Maine and that it was either an accident, such as a coal explosion, or some type of time bomb inside the battleship. Divers investigating the shipwreck found that the armour plates of the ship were blown bending outwards, not inwards
4. Korean War, 1950-1953
South Korean incursions into North Korea (1949) led to war. It involved leaders of Taiwan, South Korea and the U.S. military-industrial complex (John Foster Dulles has been mentioned as an organizer of the hostilities).
5. Vietnam War Tonkin Incident, 1964
The National Security Agency admitted it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 by manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam War.
6. Grenada invasion
The reason for the invasion given by the U.S. was that American medical students studying in the Grenada were in danger due the Cuban presence. The U.S. supported a new rightwing leader.
7. Panama invasion
An incident between American and Panamanian troops led to invasion. The leader Manuel Noriega was changed and the earlier Carter administration plan to hand the control of the Canal over to Panama was cancelled.
8. U.S. and Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988
The CIA-organised coup of 1953 replaced Iranian Prime Minister Mosaddegh with the dictatorial Shah, who was given the best Western military equipment. But after the revolt against the Shah, the U.S. supported Saddam Hussein to attack Iran with strategic support and weapons, including gas warfare agents. "Too bad they both cannot lose", is how Kissinger evaluated this situation.
9. Bombing of Lybia, 1984
A Mossad agent admitted that, in 1984, they had planted a radio transmitter in Gaddaffi’s compound in Tripoli, Libya, which broadcast fake terrorist trasmissions in order to frame Gaddaffi as a terrorist supporter. Ronald Reagan bombed Libya immediately thereafter.
10. Desert Storm (First Gulf War), 1991
Saddam Hussein asked for permission from the U.S. (via their ambassador, April Glaspie) to attack Kuwait, which had been asked by the U.S. to put pressure on Saddam to pay back money lent to fight against Iran. Kuwait was also illegally siphoning off oil from Iraqi fields. Saddam was told by Glaspie that the U.S. does not care about Arab quarrels. That was a trap, and after Saddam occupied Kuwait, George Bush Snr mobilised a coalition of some 40 nations to "liberate Kuwait" and to smash the recently-built Iraqi military power base. This also involved a media hoax, where the daughter of Kuwaiti U.S. ambassador played nurse on TV and testified to "witnessing" Iraqi soldiers throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait.
11. Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 10/7/01
Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, Saudi Arabian Osama bin Laden, was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon. The leaders of Afghanistan were willing to hand over Osama for trial to a neutral nation, but the U.S. refused this compromise.
12. Enduring Justice (Second Gulf War), 3/20/03
The claimed reason of the attack was that Iraq was a clear and present danger to the U.S., with WMD's available within less than an hour after the decision to assemble them had been made.
https://independentaustralia.net/article-display/united-states-the-false-flag-empire,12822
#17 Without any evidence, the former CIA-asset, Saudi Arabian Osama bin Laden, was claimed to be the mastermind behind the 9/11 strikes at the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon
Lmao
#17 joer ya podías haber puesto la traducción, que si no fuera por el amigo jack's no habría entendido nada
#17 pues como todos sean como la 11...
#2 ha sido en unas maniobras. Un mal día lo tiene cualquiera.
CC #3
#3 Si el avión estuviera hecho de cubitos sería perfecto
#3 sublime
#3 Si, que raro que no lo estén vendiendo como un ataque no provocado... "ya si eso investigamos después... o no."
#2 El nombre del avión que ha explotado no sería "Acorazado Maine" por un casual...
Cuántos aviones militares españoles han estallado en California en los últimos años? Y cuántos aviones militares portugueses han estallado en Nueva York últimamente?
Pues eso. Que dejen de andar tocando los cojones en otros países que ni les van ni les vienen. Y que dejen de ser unos impresentables, que da vergüenza ajena saber de cualquier cosa de USA relacionada con la política exterior.
#21 Vaya, si es Rusia la que se pasea por Siria está bien, que les han dado permiso. Si EUA tiene permiso para operar en otros países mal.
#25 ¿Tú también has leído todos mis artículos en RT alabando los paseos por rusos por Siria? Creí que aquí nadie leía mis artículos en RT.
#29 "Invitados", la cosa es que no tendrían que salir de su país y menos ir a países a miles de km en los que no pintan nada.
#30 tu quien eres exactamente para decir si tienen o no que estar en Noruega?
#35 goto #31
#30 Haces honor a tu nombre
#52 Gracias, Barney
#64 De nada, es un honor que te dignes a contestarme.
#21 Están ahí porque han sido invitados por el país sobre el que vuelan, deja de desinformar
#21 deja que los Noruegos inviten a su país a quien les salga de los cojones
#31 No solo les dejo sino que además reparto kleenex a los USA para que no lloren si les explotan sus aviones por meter sus narices militares en sitios donde no pintan nada. Fíjate si soy magnánimo.
Aviones militares uruguayos que exploten en Noruega vas a ver pocos. Es lo que tiene no meter las napias donde no pintan nada.
#21 Es un ejercicio militar que llevan haciendo cada 2 años desde el 2006.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Response
#33 Gracias por la referencia. Buen nombre también para la maniobra.
¿Sabotaje para casus belli?
#2 ¿falsa bandera?
#2 Lo primero que he pensado. Espero equivocarme.
#2 Solo por puntualizar. La aeronave ha tenido un accidente y se ha estrellado. Cada año hay accidentes de aviones militares, bastantes, pero a no ser que sean de españoles no te vas a enterar.
#2 yo apostaría por militares muertos donde no tenían que estar que se justifican con este accidente de avión
De la noticia:
It is with great sadness we have recived the message that four American soldiers died in a plane crash last night. The soldiers participated in the NATO exercise Cold Response. Our deepest sympathies go to the soldiers' families, relatives and fellow soldiers in their unit.
Palabras del primer ministro noreugo. Suena a accidente en maniobras, nada màs.
No quiero acordarme de Pearl Harbour...
Ojalá sea un accidente.
#4 Mejor sería, ojalá digan que es un accidente. Lo que realmente haya pasado no es relevante.
#13 Lo dice en la noticia.
#4
Los japoneses atacando de forma espontánea a un país no involucrado aún en la Segunda Guerra Mundial … yo tengo más que dudas
Ha sido
ETA, digo... ha sido Rusia!Espero que no hayan sido los rusos. Que sino me voy al bunker directo.
Pensaba que había gente con las manos levantadas, he tenido que ampliar para ver que eran las aspas ...
#5 Las aspas son blancas.
PD: Es una foto de archivo, no és ni el mismo modelo de avión.
#14 #5 efectivamente. Lo que se ha estrellado es un Osprey. Una mezcla maravillosa entre avión y helicóptero.
De las cosas que hay por el aire solo un zepelín mola más.
#5 que dices loco, es un helicoptero efectivamente, y lo negro son spermatzs rusos claramente saboteandolo
#5 Me ha pasado lo mismo
#61
Es que el V-22 es más peligroso que el Hindenburg:
https://hmong.es/wiki/Accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_V-22_Osprey
#59 Es el Ford Pinto de los aviones.
Te parece bien que un avión tenga un accidente y mueran sus ocupantes? Va para #_47 que por supuesto me tiene bloqueado.
Si es Rusia lamque la empieza, estará en descartadas como bulo o irrelevante.
Seguro que culpan a Putin y es el pretexto oportuno.
Ese modelo de aeronave es muy poco de fiar...
#9 No sé lo seguro que es, pero mola como cambia de configuaración 'avión-helicóptero'.
#9 No te dejes llevar por la fama que arrastra. Su desarrollo fue problemático y con muchos problemas, pero ya lleva muchos años volando y la fiabilidad ha mejorado muchísimo.
En ningún sitio de la noticia dice que haya estallado. ¿De dónde sale ese titular?
"Y hace BUM! Ya está aquí la guerra"
#43
Para ilustrar lo que comentas.
Me parece bien.
que pena me da. El coste de ese avion habria pagado la deuda de la mitad de los estudiantes de USA
Hasta ahora se desconocen las razones (llevan detallandose desde ayer), pero nosotros decimos que estalla y luego ya que lo busquen.
Pd metrología, no ha estallado nada
Plane crash -> estalla, bien, genial, eso demuestra que no tenéis nada mejor que soltar aparte de mierda.